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{\an8}[birds chirping]
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[witness 1 speaking in Bosnian]
I've dreamt of it many times,
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as if I see it in front of me,
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night or day, but…
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the place seemed different, undefined…
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somehow strange…
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[Catherine over earphones, in English]
Would you like to rest?
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Should we have a little break?
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Oh.
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[in Bosnian] No, no, I want to say it.
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They were shooting at us.
Then my brother fell over me.
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I closed my eyes
and I felt something wet over me.
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And that was all…
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I remember, later it got cold,
I felt very, very cold.
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Then I got up, when darkness fell.
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I knew that no one else was alive.
This I knew without doubt.
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[witness 2, in Bosnian] First thing I saw
was the minaret. It was in flames.
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And two or three houses
at the other end of the village.
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The men carried torches
and canisters with gas,
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and the raincoats were to protect them
from the fire.
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I was holding my mother by the hand,
as if to encourage her.
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They started shouting:
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"Let go, separate!"
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"Men go to this side, women to that side."
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My mother was old and very ill.
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[Finn over earphones, in English]
Do you recognise
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any of the men on the photo
in front of you?
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[in Bosnian] I never saw my mother again.
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[Catherine, in English]
When you did the burials,
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was it on June 8th or 9th?
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[witness 3, in Bosnian]
Some women say it was the 8th,
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some say the 9th.
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I don't remember.
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We had only two spades,
and we dug in shifts.
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It took a long time. The earth was dry.
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But we buried them all, all 11 men.
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[Finn, in English]
I need some clarification.
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Could it be
that it all was happening in July?
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[in Bosnian] No, no, it was June.
I remember the poppies.
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Poppies bloom in June.
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[birds chirping]
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[wind instrument plays]
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[judge, in English]
You have denied as untrue,
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all testimonies of the witnesses,
stating that you have been seen,
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acting as a commanding officer
of military troops.
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[in Bosnian] One winter I wore
an old military trench coat,
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but, perhaps, I'd save some of your time
if I told you that I don't know
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any of the witnesses that spoke here.
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I am a teacher. A Serbian teacher.
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By education and by vocation.
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For 30 years,
I've being teaching the children
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in the Bratunac region
to speak and write correctly.
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-I have taught them…
-[judge, in English] I am warning you
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that you should answer only the questions
you've been asked
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and only in direct relevance
to these questions.
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[bangs]
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[in Bosnian] I don't know any
of the witnesses that spoke here.
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I'm a hundred percent sure.
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Yes, I've definitely been
in the area of Bratunac,
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because I live there, I was born there.
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My parents were born there.
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My grandparents on my father's side
were born there.
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My grandparents on my mother's side too.
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[gavel bangs]
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[in English] I believe it's high time
to close this trial.
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Not only because the prosecutor
hasn't brought so far
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any reasonable evidence against my client,
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but also the total absence
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of constructive legal ideas
creates a vacuum
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that compromises the Tribunal itself.
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[piano music plays]
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[ball thuds]
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-[keys jingle]
-[sighs]
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[door opens]
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[door closes]
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[woman] All rise!
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Good morning.
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The court announces
a "semi-closed" session.
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[machine clicks, whirs]
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[Deyan, in Bosnian]
I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth
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and nothing but the truth.
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[in English]
Is the name written here yours?
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[Deyan, in Bosnian] Yes.
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[in English] You may take your seat, sir.
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[Deyan, in Bosnian] May I stand?
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[Catherine, in English]
We'll ask you a few questions.
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If you don't understand
any of the questions,
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please, do not hesitate to ask
for clarification.
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Witness K-109, where are you from?
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[Deyan, in Bosnian] I don't know exactly
where I was born,
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because I was abandoned as a child.
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I've lived in seven homes
for abandoned children,
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but I know that I'm from Bosnia.
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[in English] But I am from Bosnia.
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[prosecutor] How did you get involved
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with a Serbian paramilitary organisation
named Guardia?
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[in Bosnian] I was playing football in
school, we were the regional champions.
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Later, we used to play
in a sports' hall in Zvornik.
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[modulated voice] I met there with guys
who were training to be guards,
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we became friends.
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They enlisted because they were Serbs,
and I did because I wanted to play.
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[prosecutor, in English]
And what is your religion?
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[Deyan, in Bosnian] I am an orphan,
I don't know.
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I don't know
what my parents' religion was.
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[in English] What was your position
in Guardia?
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[in Bosnian] Soldier.
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Volunteer, it's the same.
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[in English] Are you ready
for the identification?
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-[Deyan, in Bosnian] Now?
-[in English] Yes.
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[Deyan, in Bosnian] I am ready.
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[in English] Bring in the defendant.
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[door opens]
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[Catherine] The defendant,
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do you recognise the individual
at the witness's bench?
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[in Bosnian] No.
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[Catherine, in English] Witness K-109,
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do you recognise the individual seated
at the defendant's bench?
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[in Bosnian] Yes.
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[Catherine, in English]
Who do you know him to be?
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[in Bosnian] This is my
military commander, Milorad Krstić.
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[Deyan] May I sit down?
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[Catherine, in English] Were you under
Milorad Krstic's command
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in the region of Bratunac
and specially in the village of Gologva,
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between the 9th and the 12th of May?
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[Deyan, in Bosnian] Yes.
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[in English] Witness K-109,
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did you take part in the arson
of the mosque and the Muslims' houses
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in the above-mentioned village
in the evening of the 9th of May, 1992?
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[Deyan, in Bosnian] Yes.
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[Catherine, in English]
Could you tell us about it?
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[in Bosnian] We started from Zvornik.
We reached the village around 5:30 p.m.
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Our commanders went
to the House of Culture.
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We split in groups, as planned.
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-[indistinct dialogue]
-[in English] Jesus, finally!
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This is a break-through!
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Save a slot in the prime news, guys!
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[Deyan, in Bosnian] …we had orders
to set the houses on fire…
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[in Bosnian] I don't know this boy!
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[in English] The defendant Krstić,
you are not allowed to speak
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without our permission!
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After you set
all the Muslims' houses on fire,
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after the men were separated
from the women
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and the women were driven away,
what happened to the men?
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[Deyan, in Bosnian]
We took them to the school.
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[in English] Did anyone protest?
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Did you shoot at them?
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[in Bosnian] There were casualties.
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One in the beginning.
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His wife didn't want to let his hand go.
They were still in front of their house.
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He was young.
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And another one, much older,
who didn't want to get in the classroom.
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They… we shot him in the corridor.
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As for the bodies,
I don't know where they took them.
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Just two of them.
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[in English] Is it true that the women
who didn't want to leave were mistreated?
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[Deyan, in Bosnian] Yes.
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[in English] Tell us about it.
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[Deyan, in Bosnian]
There were seven or eight.
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Eight women.
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Two of them were very old.
The others were younger.
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We took them to a white house
in the northern end of the village,
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in the basement. I had to keep guard.
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[Catherine, in English] Were the women
in the white house raped?
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[Deyan, in Bosnian] Yes.
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[in English] Did you see it happening?
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[in Bosnian] At first I only heard
their screams. Then I saw it.
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[in English] Was the defendant Krstić
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inside the white house
during these events?
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-[prosecutor] No translation.
-[interpreter sobs]
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-Is she Bosnian?
-I don't know.
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[interpreter] I'm sorry.
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[Catherine] Was the defendant Krstić
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inside the white house
during these events?
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[Deyan, in Bosnian] Yes, he was.
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[Finn, in English] Your Honour,
I have several questions for the witness.
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[judge] Mr. Finn, you'll ask
your questions in the next session.
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These questions are of utmost importance.
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[judge] Court will now recess.
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Just one question!
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-[judge] It's recess.
-[gavel bangs]
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[indistinct chattering]
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[choir singing "O Come, O Come, Emmanuel"]
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[Finn] I have to be absolutely sincere.
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[interpreter, in Bosnian]
I have to be sincere.
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[in English] In fact,
we're starting from scratch again.
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[in Bosnian]
We have to start from scratch again.
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[in English] We have to concentrate.
We have to find something to start with.
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[in Bosnian] We have to concentrate.
We have to find something to start with.
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[in English] Maybe that white house.
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[in Bosnian] Maybe that white house.
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What bloody white house, boy?
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-[Finn, in English] What did he say?
-What, what white house?
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You must know that boy from somewhere.
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And look at me, damn it, I'm your lawyer.
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[interpreter speaking in Bosnian]
You must know this boy…
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[in Bosnian] I don't know this boy.
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[interpreter, in English]
He doesn't know him.
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If I can't comprehend why he told us
this story, if it's not true,
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I can't do anything else
and in fact I will be of no use to you.
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[interpreter, in Bosnian]
If I can't comprehend
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why he told us this story,
if it's not true,
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I can't do anything else
and I won't be of any use to you.
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[in Bosnian]
God himself can't help you understand.
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It's something different,
it's in our blood.
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We are born with it.
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[in English]
God himself can't make you understand.
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[in Bosnian]
"My Bosnia is land of hatred."
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"Anyone who didn't want to hate
has become a stranger, a freak,
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and often, a martyr."
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[Finn, in English] So, what did he say?
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He's talking about hatred,
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but it's impossible
to translate his words.
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What about hatred?
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[interpreter]
He quoted one of our writers, Ivo Andric.
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[scoffs]
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-May I ask you something?
-[keys jingling]
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-Do you choose your clients yourself?
-[gate opens]
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-You're judging me?
-[gate closes]
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No, I'm not judging you. It's…
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It's just important that I know that.
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[Finn]
I felt your hostility towards my client.
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Of course, I have no idea
what you've been through,
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what you experienced,
but I know exactly how you feel about me.
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You think that I'm unscrupulous person,
interested only in money.
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A man without moral.
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[interpreter] When they took
all Muslim men to the school
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and the women to the buses,
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the Dutch military man, uh,
told the Serbian officer,
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that I'm their translator
and they need me.
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Then the Serb told me: "You can go now
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but I can't promise that one of my boys
won't shoot you in the back."
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I didn't translate this to the Dutchman,
I was ashamed to.
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And he didn't ask me to, so I went.
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Nobody shot me.
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I reached the buses and got in one.
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I've asked myself
a thousand times after that,
239
00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,480
what did the Dutchman understand?
240
00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:14,840
Did he understand what's going on?
241
00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:21,560
In that school I left my father, my uncle,
242
00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,280
two cousins and my friends.
243
00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,080
That Serb, when he let me go
and he was laughing,
244
00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,520
he had a feeling he was God himself.
245
00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,400
He didn't care about anything human.
246
00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:37,880
They don't need protection.
247
00:18:41,360 --> 00:18:45,320
If law didn't exist as a regulator
of relations between men,
248
00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,080
the world would be a horrible place.
249
00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,720
Something like that school of yours
that day.
250
00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,920
I know what I'm talking about, believe me.
251
00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,080
You have to look forward.
252
00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:03,440
Life can be beautiful, too.
253
00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,240
My life was beautiful
when my father was alive.
254
00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,040
I hate make-up.
255
00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,640
I never wear make-up in real life.
256
00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:34,600
It feels like cheap and naive lie.
257
00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,760
But it's not a lie, ma'am.
It's because of the light.
258
00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,200
With make-up on,
you'll look like your real self.
259
00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,360
That's why we do it. So…
260
00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,560
-Is it okay if I continue?
-[Catherine] Yeah.
261
00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,720
Listen Marijn, file a request
262
00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,120
for an immediate replacement
of the interpreter.
263
00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,360
No, he's… he's excellent.
264
00:19:58,120 --> 00:20:02,440
Can you arrange a meeting
with an officer from the Dutch battalion?
265
00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,040
Uh, yes, the peacekeepers.
266
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:12,760
Mm-hm. And also, I want you
to find somebody to go to Bosnia,
267
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,400
to the village of Gologva immediately.
268
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,000
I need information
about certain white houses.
269
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,000
[ball thuds]
270
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,480
[host] You have an important witness.
271
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,240
And finally you have a chance
to reverse the outcome of the trial.
272
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,160
The particularities are to remain
within the Tribunal.
273
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,120
Will you show him to the press?
274
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,840
Is he a man or a woman?
275
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,400
Proving the truth
is a long and complex process.
276
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,920
Often it's even painful.
277
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,320
I've avoided public appearances
over the last year and a half,
278
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:53,600
because none of your colleagues ever asked
the one and only question of importance:
279
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,600
What do I truly believe in?
280
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,040
What do you believe in?
281
00:20:58,120 --> 00:21:00,280
I believe in the supreme justice of law.
282
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,240
That's my personal religion.
283
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,720
And this is exactly the goal
of this trial which I'm leading.
284
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,720
Justice for the victims in Bosnia.
285
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,640
The entire democratic world
is hoping for justice.
286
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:18,360
And a successful outcome of the trial,
which you are entrusted to lead, but…
287
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:20,240
I have been in Bosnia.
288
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,360
I've seen the mothers in black.
289
00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:28,040
I saw the women who had to bury
their husbands themselves.
290
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:30,800
I held their hands.
291
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,560
[upbeat music plays]
292
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,200
[door opens, closes]
293
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,080
[metal clanging]
294
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,960
[indistinct dialogue on TV]
295
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,440
[wind instrument plays]
296
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,280
[in Bosnian] White… white house?
297
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:20,520
[clears throat]
298
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,120
[marker rustling]
299
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:38,680
[Finn, in Bosnian] School?
300
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:41,880
Okay?
301
00:23:59,120 --> 00:23:59,960
[in Bosnian] Yes.
302
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,520
We did separate them.
303
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,480
But I don't know this boy.
304
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,000
[dramatic music playing]
305
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,960
[indistinct dialogue on TV]
306
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,560
[Finn] Do you know somebody in Bosnia,
307
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,160
somebody who could look
for someone's relatives.
308
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,040
-If anyone has survived?
-Yes, I know such people.
309
00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:41,440
I'm able to give you
some information that could help.
310
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,720
And you should know
that money is of no importance.
311
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,240
Uh…
312
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,480
-Oops! [grunts]
-Sorry!
313
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,240
[in Dutch] Shit happens.
314
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:54,480
[in English] Where was I? Uh…
315
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,080
Uh, you should know
that you will be paid for it.
316
00:25:58,680 --> 00:25:59,760
Uh, I'm a lawyer.
317
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,360
It's important for the outcome
of the case, I've been hired.
318
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:09,120
I am from the Dutch Army,
speciality "peacekeeping missions"!
319
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,600
I didn't do it for the money,
we went there to help!
320
00:26:12,360 --> 00:26:15,280
Then they started investigations,
they wanted reports.
321
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,040
It was a shame for Holland,
but where was Holland then?
322
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,840
People from America, from the CIA,
323
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,440
they took pictures, every six hours.
324
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:30,360
Uh, no, coffee.
325
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,920
You can see on one of the pictures
326
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,360
many men walking
with their hands tied behind their backs.
327
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,080
On the bank of a river,
the same river we used to patrol.
328
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,200
They say it was clearly visible.
329
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,960
And then in the same picture
six hours later,
330
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:49,480
the men are gone.
331
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,240
And the ground nearby is freshly dug.
332
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:55,560
That's where they ended up.
333
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:57,840
But I swear,
334
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,000
we did not see anything.
335
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,240
We did not even hear about it.
336
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,520
-[man, in Dutch] Cheers, Bart!
-Fuck you!
337
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:16,440
[in English] Do you know such people
who can do what I'm asking for?
338
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,040
Because it's… it's very
important for me.
339
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,800
Yes, I know such people.
340
00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:30,840
For a little money
they can even recover a corpse.
341
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:34,320
Give me two days.
342
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,000
[indistinct chattering]
343
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,000
[piano music plays]
344
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,960
[bird cawing]
345
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,160
[Jasna, in Bosnian]
We agreed on a certain fee.
346
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,080
[man speaking in Bosnian]
347
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,280
[in English] They say they didn't
get enough information.
348
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:42,520
They didn't have enough time.
349
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,440
No, no, no, I gave them the information
I was able to. He knows that!
350
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,440
But they had to make a lot of payments,
351
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,560
and they won't give you the address
if you don't pay in advance.
352
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,480
[machine whirring]
353
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,200
[whirring continues]
354
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,160
[Finn] All right.
355
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,400
Is there any cash machine somewhere here?
356
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,040
Fiko!
357
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,560
[machine whirring fades]
358
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,920
What are they, Christians? Muslims?
359
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,240
I have no idea. It's really hard to tell.
360
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,000
Entire countries can't find
a missing person, how come they can?
361
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,000
They earn on people's grief, on death.
362
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,040
-[Finn] Are you from Sarajevo?
-[Jasna] Yes.
363
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,280
[Finn] Since when haven't you been here?
364
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:56,240
[Jasna] Almost a year,
but for Sarajevo, it's a lot. A lot.
365
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,080
[upbeat music plays on radio]
366
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,240
[man sings in Bosnian]
367
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,600
[driver speaking in Bosnian]
Follow this road.
368
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,000
I'll come to pick you up tomorrow morning,
I can't wait here in the dark.
369
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,720
Tell him the price stays the same.
370
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:03,480
[car door closes]
371
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,480
[car engine revs]
372
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,240
[in English] Jasna.
373
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,200
Did I pronounce it correctly?
374
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:15,520
Quite right.
375
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,720
-Right, Jasna.
-Yeah.
376
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,720
Do I ask myself will we have a roof
377
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,040
over our heads tonight
or should I better not?
378
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,240
[Jasna] Leave this to God, it's his job.
[chuckles]
379
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,720
-[Finn] Sure?
-[Jasna] Yeah.
380
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,480
-[Finn] What's so funny?
-[Jasna] Well… [chuckles]
381
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,240
[dog barks]
382
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:57,200
[Jasna speaking in Bosnia] Do you know
where Lekić's house is? Alexander Lekić.
383
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,840
[woman speaking in Bosnian] Over there,
the house at the back. There he lives.
384
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,080
-The back house, over there.
-[Jasna] Good, thank you.
385
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,480
-[woman] You're welcome.
-[Finn, in English] Thank you.
386
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,000
What does she say?
387
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:17,880
[Jasna] Just straight up.
388
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,280
[cow mooing]
389
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,920
[sniffs, chuckles]
390
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:35,760
[knocks on door]
391
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,640
Hmm. What do you think? [sniffs]
392
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,080
-[door opens, creaks]
-[in Bosnian] Good evening.
393
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,160
This man is from abroad.
He would like to talk to you.
394
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:54,080
It's important.
395
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,960
[horse neighs]
396
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:00,920
Thank you.
397
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,880
[door opens, closes]
398
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:20,520
[in English] Thank you, sir.
399
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,160
[Jasna, in Bosnian] Do you have a son?
400
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,520
[in Bosnian] We have no money.
401
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:39,680
[Jasna, in English]
They don't have any money.
402
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,080
[in Bosnian] It's not for the money.
This man is a Dutch lawyer.
403
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,200
He paid some locals to find you.
404
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,760
He thinks your son is alive.
405
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,840
[in Bosnian]
We've already paid twice to find him.
406
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,120
[in English] They have paid twice
to find him.
407
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,400
Do you have a picture of your son?
408
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,040
[in Bosnian]
Do you have a picture of the boy?
409
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:09,840
Everything remained in the house,
410
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,760
after the war we couldn't find anything.
411
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,520
We used to have lots of pictures.
412
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:25,120
Does he have a picture of that boy?
413
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,199
[in English]
Do you have a picture of the boy?
414
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:28,639
No, I don't.
415
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,840
The boy is in prison in the Hague,
the Netherlands.
416
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,639
Taking pictures is not allowed there.
417
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,080
The only way for you to check
if it is your boy
418
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:39,159
is to come with me to Holland.
419
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,199
Don't worry about the money.
420
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,360
[Jasna, in Bosnian]
He's certain it's your son.
421
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,360
[Finn, in English]
Does your son play football?
422
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,920
[indistinct chattering]
423
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:11,400
Hi.
424
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,160
I have the explicit verbal permission
of the senior officer
425
00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:17,960
of the night shift to visit K-109.
426
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,400
It will be for no more
than ten minutes. Thank you.
427
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,240
[door opens]
428
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,400
Please, remain seated.
429
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:58,480
Do you like the food?
430
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:04,520
Is it good?
431
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,320
The food?
432
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:13,680
[chuckles softy]
433
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:16,400
Hmm.
434
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:21,120
I…
435
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:29,120
[sighs] I just wanted to make sure
that, uh, everything is all right for you.
436
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:36,480
Do you understand me?
437
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:43,800
No.
438
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:49,400
No?
439
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,240
No.
440
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:03,640
You've got some…
441
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:06,480
thing…
442
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:08,560
You've got some… Here.
443
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,200
Well, have a nice evening…
444
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:27,800
[exhales]
445
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:29,680
…and, uh…
446
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:32,600
good night.
447
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,280
[door closes]
448
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,200
-[chuckles]
-[switch clicks]
449
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:32,960
[woman, in Bosnian] Cross yourself.
450
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:49,520
[whispers] Please.
451
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,080
[soft music plays]
452
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,160
-[in English] Here, try.
-[piano music plays]
453
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,880
[music plays louder]
454
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,960
-[music volume decreases]
-Do you like it?
455
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,240
[inhales, exhales]
456
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,000
[Lekic, in Bosnian]
Before the war, we had many animals.
457
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,960
Cows, sheep, chicken.
458
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,760
We were doing okay.
We had everything we needed.
459
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,080
I was thinking about buying a horse, too.
460
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,520
I wanted a good one,
but they were expensive.
461
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,800
The war took all the animals. They died.
462
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,280
Except for the horses. They reproduced.
463
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,720
They mated as they pleased.
Beautiful young horses were born.
464
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:34,800
But they went completely wild.
465
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:37,760
They don't want to be
with us humans anymore.
466
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,440
[birds chirping]
467
00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:54,160
[Jasna, in English]
She wants to give you a present.
468
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:55,800
You must accept it.
469
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:00,880
She made it herself.
470
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,840
They managed to preserve it
throughout the war.
471
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,240
Now she wants you to have it.
472
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:12,160
[Finn] Nice.
473
00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:15,840
Thank you. I…
474
00:43:25,240 --> 00:43:27,720
[Jasna] Is it okay if I take a picture,
as a souvenir?
475
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:29,720
[in Bosnian] Can I take a picture?
476
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:32,840
-[in English] Well, okay.
-So, yeah.
477
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,480
If you can stand, maybe, there somewhere?
478
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,360
[in Bosnian] Over there, please?
479
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:42,600
[in English] Please.
480
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,000
[Jasna, in Bosnian] Smile! Cheese!
481
00:43:49,720 --> 00:43:50,880
[camera shutter clicks]
482
00:43:53,240 --> 00:43:54,560
[Jasna, in Bosnian] Thanks for everything.
483
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,240
[Jasna, in English] He's a Christian
and she's a Muslim,
484
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:05,480
but they stayed together.
485
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:08,040
I really hope this boy is their son.
486
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,320
[Finn] Now, I'm scared.
What if it is not their son?
487
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,920
[upbeat music plays]
488
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:27,600
[Jasna] Are you married?
489
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,960
I had a brief marriage,
but that was a long time ago.
490
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,200
I haven't got children,
if this is what you want to know.
491
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,920
Nothing bad is going to happen
to their son, right?
492
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,240
You are not using him
for you own sake, are you?
493
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:54,560
Because, well, I trusted you.
And these people are very kind.
494
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,960
[man singing in Bosnian]
495
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,400
[in Bosnian] Are you going abroad?
496
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:27,600
Yes, abroad.
497
00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:30,080
West?
498
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,240
-West.
-Lucky you.
499
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,320
[in English] I could tell
you haven't got children.
500
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:39,640
It's always obvious.
501
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,040
You people from the West
are… more different.
502
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,120
-In what sense? Worse?
-[chuckles lightly]
503
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,320
You're more reserved, more quiet.
504
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,360
More… polite,
505
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,800
-more balanced, more…
-Boring?
506
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:04,400
Yeah. [laughs]
507
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:07,920
Well… [chuckles]
508
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,280
[inhales] You know?
509
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,200
I am a grandson of emigrants.
510
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,480
My grandfather came from Russia.
511
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,840
He travelled half of Europe
before settling in Sweden.
512
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,120
My father was born
somewhere along the way.
513
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,320
My grandfather remained a foreigner.
514
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:36,600
He never learned the language.
515
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,640
I never met him,
he died before I was born.
516
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,200
I never had grandparents, neither.
517
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:48,960
[sighs] So I know how you feel.
518
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:55,160
-[Jasna] Do you speak Russian?
-No, not really. Unfortunately, no.
519
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:57,720
What about your father?
520
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,760
My father is, um… an old man.
521
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:04,680
Did he speak Russian?
522
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:05,920
-[Finn] He did.
-He did?
523
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,120
-He should have taught you.
-[Finn] He should have.
524
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,240
[Jasna] For what did you leave Sweden?
525
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:19,200
Since my mother died,
there was no reason to stay.
526
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,080
[birds chirping]
527
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:58,480
[aircraft hovering overhead]
528
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,840
[birds cawing]
529
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:11,080
[indistinct chattering]
530
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:23,200
This is Amsterdam.
531
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:27,000
Amsterdam?
532
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:29,440
Ajax?
533
00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:31,760
Johann Cruyff.
534
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,080
Johan Neeskens.
535
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:41,920
Barry Hulshoff, Ruud Krol,
Arie Haan, Gerrie Mühren,
536
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,400
-Johnny Rep…
-[driver] Piet Schrijvers,
537
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,320
Heinz Stuy and the Twelve Apostles.
538
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:49,440
[in Bosnian] The Twelve Apostles.
539
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:52,640
The Twelve Apostles!
540
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:54,520
True.
541
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:57,320
[chuckles]
542
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,120
[elevator dings, opens]
543
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:11,680
[door opens]
544
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:15,360
-[in English] Good evening, Fanny.
-[Fanny] Hello.
545
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,400
Thanks for waiting. You've been very kind.
546
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,280
You can take the hours off
whenever it suits you best.
547
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:22,840
It's no problem, Mr. Mikhail.
548
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,840
This is Alexander, this is Fanny.
549
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,360
[sighs]
550
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,400
[Finn] Oh, you need a writer.
551
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,760
A Nobel Prize-winner kind of writer
552
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,400
to describe in words exactly
how it is there…
553
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,000
I thought about going to hotel,
but it's impossible,
554
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:56,960
he's terribly stressed…
555
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:58,320
[Fanny] Don't smoke.
556
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,760
[Finn] Suddenly Marijn,
I see this flat through his eyes.
557
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,480
Jesus, why did we rent such a flat?
558
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:06,840
Should I serve dinner?
559
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,720
Oh, great.
Uh, that would be all for tonight.
560
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,080
You can go home. Thank you.
561
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,440
[Finn] Uh, and also,
fill in a DNA analysis request.
562
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,280
Uh-huh.
But this has to stay absolutely secret.
563
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:25,000
Yeah, yeah.
564
00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:28,160
One last thing, Marijn.
565
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,720
Call Jasna and ask her
if she can spend the morning with him.
566
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:38,760
Tell her to take him to the place
that Cruyff and his friends played. Mm-hm.
567
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,680
[Finn] Mm-hm. I saw the news, too.
568
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,480
I was a little bit disappointed
that Madame Melancholia
569
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,200
hasn't noticed my absence. [laughs]
570
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,560
[utensils clanking]
571
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:43,160
I'll sit here.
572
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:03,160
No hungry?
573
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:05,240
Hungry, no?
574
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:11,280
Do you want some bread?
575
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,280
[sighs]
576
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:28,440
Son.
577
00:52:29,720 --> 00:52:33,840
Son? Your son? Yes?
578
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:38,160
Son.
579
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:44,520
This is my father.
580
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,480
Son? Oh, yes.
581
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:50,760
I am his son.
582
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:57,080
He is my father, Alexander.
583
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:58,600
[in Bosnian] Father.
584
00:52:59,960 --> 00:53:00,920
[in Bosnian] Father.
585
00:53:04,720 --> 00:53:06,240
[in English]
This is my father and my mother.
586
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:10,320
[in Bosnian] Father and mother.
587
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,120
-[Finn, in Bosnian] Mother?
-[Alexander, in Bosnian] Mother.
588
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:17,240
[clicks tongue]
589
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:18,760
[in English] Yeah.
590
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:23,120
Please.
591
00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:27,640
[man on tape machine] How do you do?
592
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:29,560
How do you do?
593
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:32,360
[man] Nice to meet you.
594
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,520
Nice to meet you.
595
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,040
What is your name? My name is…
596
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,680
Where are you from? I am from…
597
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,520
-[tape player clicks]
-I am from Bosnia.
598
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,120
-[tape player clicks]
-[tape rewinding]
599
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,360
[tape player clicks]
600
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,400
[man] Lesson number two. How do you do?
601
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,280
[boat motor whirring]
602
00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:33,440
[in Bosnian] I couldn't even dream
that I would come here. Ever.
603
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,400
I still remember those games
from '71, '72, '73.
604
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,280
I remember them as if it was yesterday.
605
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,520
I was in high school.
I wasn't married yet.
606
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,800
Actually, that's exactly
when I first met my wife.
607
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:49,880
You never know.
608
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:54,600
My mum always says,
"Man proposes, but God disposes."
609
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:11,680
Listen, Jasna,
610
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,960
while we were at home, in Bosnia,
I wanted to ask you, what are you?
611
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,800
-What do you mean, what am I?
-Forgive me, please.
612
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,040
That's okay, it's not a shame.
613
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,400
No, if you don't want to say, it's okay.
614
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:27,840
Well, it's not a secret.
615
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:30,800
I… my case is like this.
616
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,680
I was born in Germany,
my parents used to work there.
617
00:56:35,240 --> 00:56:37,360
So, my brother was also born there.
618
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,320
[sighs]
619
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,000
And my parents are Bosnians
of Muslim origin.
620
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,080
But they are not religious.
621
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,800
We used to live in another country,
with other people…
622
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,440
And my folks
didn't want to be different…
623
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:02,240
When the war started,
Mum and Dad suffered a lot.
624
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:09,240
And they told us, once the war is over,
we're going back home.
625
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:12,520
So, last year we went home.
626
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,320
But it was hell.
627
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:20,520
Our people didn't accept us.
628
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,240
Neighbours, relatives, no one.
629
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:26,480
I can understand this, but…
630
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,960
They suffered a lot and we just came like,
when everything was over.
631
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:36,200
I like it here.
632
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,240
For me, it's not a problem.
For my brother also.
633
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,160
But my mum and dad…
634
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:49,520
they suffer a lot.
635
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:04,480
Hey Bosnia, dear Bosnia.
636
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,000
Are we going to live long enough
to forgive each other?
637
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:11,320
You know…
638
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,960
We let our son decide himself
what he wants to be.
639
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,680
No one forced him to do anything.
You know, I'm not religious.
640
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:27,000
I thought, if he accepts Allah,
that's fine.
641
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:29,640
Like his mother,
I accepted her as she was.
642
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,520
If he wants,
I will accept him like that also.
643
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:40,880
Today when you see him…
644
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,760
In the end, I never learned
if he believed in anything.
645
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,720
[cries]
646
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:54,000
Everything will be fine.
647
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:56,960
[sobs]
648
00:58:58,000 --> 00:58:58,840
I'm sorry.
649
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,400
-I'm sorry.
-Everything will be fine.
650
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,680
[airplane engine droning]
651
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,240
[judge, in English] I order this session
of the court to be "in camera."
652
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:50,400
Judge May and Judge Kato
will preside the session.
653
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,880
I appeal to both sides
for utmost efficiency
654
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,800
since we have
a few important hearings left,
655
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,840
because we have reached
an important stage in our work.
656
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:05,360
The court has to make a decision
on Milorad Krstić's case.
657
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:11,600
At the end of the working day yesterday,
the defendant's lawyer, Mr. Mikhail Finn,
658
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,440
filed a request for a confrontation
with a new witness.
659
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,920
[Judge Kato]
You may bring in witness K-109.
660
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:36,040
[Judge May]
You may now bring in witness B-179.
661
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,480
[door opens]
662
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:51,240
[thuds]
663
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:15,200
Witness K-109, do you recognise
the individual next to you?
664
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:22,360
No.
665
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:29,080
[Finn] No?
666
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:32,960
Witness K-109, are you sure?
667
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:38,720
[in Bosnian] Yes.
668
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,680
[Finn clears throat, speaks in English]
Witness B-179,
669
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,120
do you recognise the individual
next to you?
670
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:55,240
[judge] Sit down, please!
671
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:58,920
Sir, could you please sit down,
this is a court room.
672
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:19,600
[sobs]
673
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,280
[Finn] Witness K-109,
I will repeat my question.
674
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:41,400
Do you recognise the individual
next to you?
675
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,280
[crying]
676
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:25,240
[in Bosnian] He is my father.
677
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:37,680
[Catherine, in English] I request a break.
678
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:39,680
I request a DNA test.
679
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:45,320
-This session is postponed until tomorrow.
-[gavel bangs]
680
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:51,200
[ethnic music playing]
681
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:04,840
[thuds]
682
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:08,000
Would you like some water?
683
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:11,480
[in Bosnian] My child is alive.
684
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:16,840
K-109?
685
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:26,280
My name is Miro.
686
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:29,920
[nurse] Pump.
687
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:38,160
It was mere luck.
I was unbelievably lucky.
688
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:43,280
I need a drink, I need some time alone.
689
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,240
I hate this excitement.
690
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:50,640
The judge declared "in camera"
before the confrontation.
691
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:54,880
First I didn't register this,
but on second thought,
692
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,720
they hear what happened,
don't you understand?
693
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:03,840
[Finn] Find the most experienced
Bosnian lawyer working in Europe.
694
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:04,760
Also…
695
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:11,200
Can you take, uh… the man, our guest,
696
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:12,840
I don't want to mention his name.
697
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:17,560
Yes. Can you take him to your house?
To some friend of yours?
698
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:18,960
The journalists mustn't find him.
699
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:20,640
[Finn] Wonderful!
700
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:25,280
This girl is a real gift, I must say.
Thank her on my behalf.
701
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:30,480
[clears throat] Tomorrow, I want you
at the airport, to see him off.
702
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,360
Find a way to offer him some money.
703
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:35,040
[Finn] Okay, bye.
704
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:48,320
[Jasna, in Dutch] Good.
705
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:52,520
Good, sweetie.
706
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:57,440
Great, darling.
707
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:06,280
Come here.
708
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:08,120
You're good, aren't you?
709
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,760
-[Jasna growls playfully]
-[child giggles]
710
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:15,120
[Jasna, in Dutch]
I'll be right back, my precious.
711
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:18,080
Wait for me.
712
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:23,440
-[in English] Hi.
-Hi.
713
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,400
-[in Bosnian] Really? Didn't I tell you.
-[Alexander chuckles]
714
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,040
And now what? Are you taking him with you?
715
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,080
Now the lawyers have to arrange it.
716
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:40,040
I gave blood for a paternity test.
The results have to come in.
717
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:41,400
His mother doesn't know yet.
718
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:46,600
-All is well if he's well. [chuckles]
-Most important is that he's alive.
719
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:48,360
Don't worry about him, Marijn.
720
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,040
[in English] I'll take care of him.
721
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:51,880
[in Dutch] Let me give you some money.
722
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,480
-No way.
-Yes, for tonight.
723
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,360
And then some more, for later,
as much as you need.
724
01:06:58,440 --> 01:06:59,360
That's not necessary.
725
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:02,360
[both chuckling]
726
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,520
Will you wait for me to finish,
I'll be back in 20 minutes.
727
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:07,080
Wait for me over there.
728
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:09,360
All right? [chuckles]
729
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:10,600
-Bye.
-Bye.
730
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:18,240
[light music playing]
731
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:04,080
[Alexander, in Bosnian] It's so beautiful.
732
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,400
[Jasna] It is beautiful, indeed.
733
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:11,960
[Lekić] I was just thinking…
734
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,840
While at home we were killing
and burying each other…
735
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:21,439
here it's been like this all the time.
736
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:23,120
[Jasna] Uh-huh.
737
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:28,760
[Finn, in English] First, I would like
to ask for a clarification,
738
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:30,359
which I believe is important
for the record.
739
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,920
Does the code K-109
remain valid for the witness?
740
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,680
Given the fact the court established
that his identity was not real
741
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,000
and that he's not called Deyan, but Miro?
742
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,080
[judge] The change has been recorded
and from now on
743
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:43,920
the witness will be called Deyan-Miro
in the record.
744
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,439
-There won't be any ambiguity.
-Thank you, Your Honour.
745
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:49,880
Witness K-109…
746
01:08:51,359 --> 01:08:54,120
Have you ever seen my client?
Have you met before?
747
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:56,520
[in Bosnian] No.
748
01:08:57,080 --> 01:09:00,200
[Finn, in English] Sorry, can't hear you.
Would you repeat your answer, please?
749
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:03,080
[in Bosnian] No.
750
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:05,680
[Finn, in English] Thank you.
751
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,000
You were under oath in this court room.
752
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,080
Still you said you knew him,
and you had witnessed,
753
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:14,800
participated together with him
in criminal offences.
754
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:16,279
Why is that?
755
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,800
Weren't you afraid of the consequences
this might have for your own self?
756
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,240
[judge] Mr. Finn, I demand
that you avoid questions
757
01:09:23,319 --> 01:09:25,560
that put psychological pressure
on the witness.
758
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,520
Answer the question. Why did you claim
that you knew the defendant?
759
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:36,120
[in Bosnian] That was the deal.
760
01:09:37,359 --> 01:09:39,279
[Finn, in English] The deal?
What deal? Could you explain?
761
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:42,120
[in Bosnian] They promised me.
762
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:44,319
[Finn, in English] What did they promise?
763
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:47,960
[in Bosnian] That they will bring me here.
764
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:50,240
I wanted to come here.
765
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:52,000
[Finn, in English] Who promised you that?
766
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:54,480
[Deyna, in Bosnian]
That was my dream, to see it…
767
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:55,760
[Finn, in English] Who promised you that?
768
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:01,720
[in Bosnian] Some people came
in the prison. We met, they chose me.
769
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,640
[in English] Do I understand correctly.
Somebody came to the prison in Sarajevo
770
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:07,920
to offer you a deal,
according to which you--
771
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:12,960
[judge] Mr. Finn, stick to your questions.
Questions, not implications.
772
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:17,200
[Finn] If you never met my client,
then how did you recognise him?
773
01:10:18,440 --> 01:10:20,520
[in Bosnian]
I've seen him on photos and videos.
774
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:28,240
[in English]
Did you receive instructions in prison?
775
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:29,160
[judge] Overruled.
776
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,520
[Finn] What was your conviction
in Sarajevo? For what reason were you…
777
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,400
Overruled. It's irrelevant to the case.
778
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,400
No further questions.
Actually, there is one more.
779
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:46,840
-What is your religion?
-[judge] Irrelevant.
780
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:56,920
I kindly ask the honourable court
not to take into account
781
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,640
witness K-109's previous statement
782
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:02,600
nor the Prosecutor's indictments
which are based on that statement
783
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,360
for the decision on Milorad Krstić's case.
784
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,120
Prosecutor? Do you have any questions?
785
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:19,080
I request a new recess.
786
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:27,240
I need to verify things,
I need expertise, consultations…
787
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:28,960
[judge] End of this session.
[pounds gavel]
788
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,840
[indistinct chattering]
789
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:55,640
[knocking on door]
790
01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:59,320
-Come in.
-[door opens]
791
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:07,960
-[door closes]
-Please, have a seat.
792
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:18,240
Your office is so small.
793
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:20,760
[chuckles]
794
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:24,720
[Catherine] You want to know if I knew?
795
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:31,800
I trusted them.
796
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:35,760
I believed it.
797
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:39,920
There were too many people involved.
798
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:44,840
I spent two months investigating him…
799
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:47,760
I trusted them.
800
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,040
And they think they were helping me,
801
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:56,000
and I wanted it to happen, so I…
802
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:57,480
I trusted them.
803
01:12:58,880 --> 01:12:59,720
That's why.
804
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,320
We'll have to move on.
You know that, don't you?
805
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:13,800
Do you think that they did it
because I'm a woman?
806
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:16,000
[judge] That's irrelevant now.
807
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,040
Your father was recognised
in the whole world.
808
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:31,600
He was such an authority.
809
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:33,760
Thank you for coming.
810
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:39,720
[judge] Have you decided what to do
with the boy, Catherine?
811
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:44,760
Krstić is a criminal.
812
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:49,920
I wanted that man to be sentenced.
813
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:55,560
-I was so close.
-We'll have him sentenced in any case.
814
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:57,480
Bonne soirée.
815
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:04,080
[door opens, closes]
816
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,200
[indistinct chattering]
817
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:57,760
[people screaming]
818
01:15:05,440 --> 01:15:08,160
[machines buzzing, ringing]
819
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:22,440
[upbeat piano music playing]
820
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:38,120
[Marijn over phone] I checked every
possibility three times today with Roland.
821
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:41,880
According to both the Tribunal
and the Dutch constitution,
822
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,960
they have to keep the boy here
until there isn't any risk
823
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:46,880
of persecution in his country.
824
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,480
Whichever constitution they take,
they have to abide…
825
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:50,760
Yeah, I know, I know.
826
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:54,680
The Bosnian lawyer arrives from Paris
on Wednesday.
827
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:56,400
I just sent her the ticket today.
828
01:15:56,480 --> 01:15:59,200
We're doing a brilliant job,
just brilliant.
829
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:01,400
Now it's time for you
to get some sleep, okay?
830
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:03,280
I'm not so sure.
831
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:05,920
You did what you had to do.
832
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:12,600
Tomorrow, we will feed
all the information to the media.
833
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:14,800
I will use our channels.
834
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:17,000
We are going to make it
very difficult for them.
835
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:19,720
I felt almost schizophrenic today.
836
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:25,880
I was more concerned about the boy
than about my client.
837
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:29,960
Remember, justice is on our side.
Absolutely.
838
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:34,320
No verdict could be based on a lie.
You told me this.
839
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:35,400
Jesus…
840
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:38,920
I totally messed up this boy's life.
841
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:42,560
And the lie is not exactly a lie…
842
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:49,280
The dark forces of insomnia
make me say such things.
843
01:16:51,440 --> 01:16:54,360
The night distorts things
and depresses people and…
844
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:56,880
drinking didn't do any good either.
845
01:17:01,440 --> 01:17:02,840
Tomorrow will be different.
846
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:06,200
Tomorrow will be a brighter day.
847
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:11,320
[Finn over phone]
Sorry for waking you up, Marijn.
848
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:15,720
You're the closest person I got…
tonight… in Holland.
849
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:18,040
[sighs]
850
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,640
If I was in Lagrange's shoes,
I would get rid of the boy immediately.
851
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:28,080
-[raindrops pattering]
-[thunder rumbling]
852
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:02,880
[Jasna]
We would like to visit K-109, please.
853
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:07,520
You don't have an appointment for today.
854
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:09,320
Oh, I know, but this is his father
and he's…
855
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:11,040
He came all the way from Bosnia.
856
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:14,360
Yes, I'll go and see.
857
01:18:18,480 --> 01:18:20,320
-Please, wait over there.
-Thank you.
858
01:18:21,440 --> 01:18:22,280
Next.
859
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:24,960
-[in Dutch] Can I take notes?
-Yeah.
860
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:27,880
Okay, good.
861
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:29,520
Um…
862
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,000
[in Bosnian] This young boy,
two days after he turned 18,
863
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:37,000
together with the entire football team,
joined a paramilitary organisation.
864
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:39,480
They enlisted as volunteers.
865
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:43,440
He was given a job in the kitchen,
866
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:45,640
and in the night of the 56th day,
they moved
867
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:49,240
and he got lost together
with three other soldiers.
868
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:51,960
They were caught and arrested.
869
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:56,920
There was a trial and he got a ten-year
sentence from the court of Sarajevo.
870
01:18:58,240 --> 01:18:59,360
[guard] Alexander Lekić.
871
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:09,920
[Jasna, in English] Yes.
872
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:11,800
I'm sorry, he's not here anymore.
873
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:28,160
[toy guns clicking]
874
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:34,320
[indistinct chattering]
875
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:40,000
[groans]
876
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:52,840
[Marijn, in Bosnian]
Make it clear in your article
877
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:56,520
that if the boy is brought back to Bosnia,
his life would be in danger.
878
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:59,480
He is right to be afraid to go back home,
879
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:03,160
because indirectly, he has accused
the authorities in Sarajevo.
880
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:08,040
Moreover, he is a living proof
that the cases were manipulated.
881
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:10,040
Over there, as well as here.
882
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:14,080
But the question remains, why doesn't
the court prosecute him for perjury?
883
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:17,080
Wait, wait! You're actually telling me,
884
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:20,400
that this boy has been traded twice.
This is perverted.
885
01:20:20,480 --> 01:20:24,240
I know your boss did everything possible
to make this happen.
886
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:27,440
Or am I wrong? Enjoy your meal.
887
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:32,120
[car engines revving]
888
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:35,320
[classical music playing on radio]
889
01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:02,520
[in English] This is the first time
Mr. Finn doesn't pick up his phone.
890
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:05,320
It's not that, we bought the tickets.
891
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:08,120
Tell me the truth, Marijn,
why are they sending him back?
892
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:10,400
[Jasna over phone]
Why don't they give him to his father?
893
01:21:10,480 --> 01:21:13,800
Mr. Finn is not at home, I just want
to speak with him. He promised me.
894
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,200
[Jasna over phone]
You'll come with us, won't you?
895
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:22,720
I'm sorry, I… I won't be able to come,
I've got tons to do.
896
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:25,360
[Marijn over phone]
I'll call you as soon as I can.
897
01:22:01,440 --> 01:22:08,120
-[announcement tone rings]
-[announcer speaking in Dutch]
898
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:15,280
[Catherine] You mustn't be surprised
899
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:18,080
that I didn't institute proceedings
for perjury
900
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:20,840
against the compromised witness K-109,
901
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:25,240
as I have undeniable evidence
that his newly-recruited lawyers
902
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:28,520
want a new trial
only to discredit this Tribunal.
903
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:32,920
I have no intention whatsoever
to cooperate to their efforts
904
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:36,440
to undermine this highest legal authority.
905
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:41,480
That's why I believe that we have
to take all the measures needed
906
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:43,600
to bring the witness
back to the authorities
907
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:47,160
in Bosnia and Herzegovina
as soon as possible.
908
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:53,200
-[clamouring]
-[PR] Silence, please.
909
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,280
My name is Lisa Robertson from NOS.
910
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:57,640
Why is there no information
on witness K-109
911
01:22:57,720 --> 01:22:59,880
on the official website of the Tribunal?
912
01:22:59,960 --> 01:23:02,280
The Tribunal has the right
to classify information.
913
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:08,680
Here we deal with some of the most complex
and difficult court cases.
914
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:13,440
[Catherine] Those criminals violated
the laws and customs of war.
915
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:16,640
There was a genocide going on in Bosnia
916
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:19,160
and I will not cease to repeat
917
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:23,480
that this Tribunal's purpose of existence
is supreme justice.
918
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:28,440
But it's normal to meet temporary
obstacles on the way to its achievement,
919
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:34,160
but I can assure you,
that these obstacles will not stop us.
920
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:38,000
Do you think that you treated the witness
according to the laws and customs of war?
921
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:42,520
This is a very specific term
and you're using it out of place.
922
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:43,640
[man] Then I have another question.
923
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:46,040
-[journalists clamouring]
-[PR] Yes, please.
924
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:49,120
Is the life of the compromised K-109
in danger?
925
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:51,960
[camera shutters clicking]
926
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:55,560
Killing for a cause
can never justify the cause.
927
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:58,240
It is always just killing.
928
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:01,680
That is what I believe in,
don't try to imply something else.
929
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:04,640
[man]
But you are sacrificing him! Yes, you do!
930
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:06,480
-[PR] Okay, last question.
-Yes, you do!
931
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:08,400
-[PR] Last question.
-[woman] Over here.
932
01:24:08,480 --> 01:24:10,040
[PR] You from IRF, last question please.
933
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:12,000
Thank you so much! Ms. Lagrange,
934
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:16,360
have you read in Het Parole
William Benning's article? I quote,
935
01:24:16,440 --> 01:24:20,760
"Does she remember she's a woman?"
936
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:24,480
-[journalists chuckle]
-Now really, do you remember?
937
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:32,640
We are living in times characterised
by complete disorder of values.
938
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:38,760
And, though my professional life
requires severe restriction,
939
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:41,280
I am a happy woman.
940
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:47,480
[Catherine]
I am a woman with a task, a real task.
941
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:51,920
I am grateful that fate
has chosen me for this.
942
01:24:53,480 --> 01:24:58,000
I'm flattered to believe
that somehow I've deserved it.
943
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:02,120
[journalists clamouring]
944
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:06,200
"If I can stop one heart from breaking,
I shall not live in vain."
945
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:13,400
"If I can ease one life the aching,
or cool one pain,
946
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:17,440
or help a fainting robin
unto his nest again,
947
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:20,480
I shall not live in vain."
948
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:23,120
Emily Dickinson.
949
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:28,440
[PR] Thank you all for your interest,
this press conference is over.
950
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:30,880
And have a nice day. Thank you, everyone.
951
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:32,960
[airplane engine droning]
952
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:55,440
[somber music playing]
953
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:13,640
[cell phone ringing]
954
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:53,560
[indistinct chattering]
955
01:26:57,440 --> 01:27:00,560
[cell phone ringing]
956
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:39,720
[door opens]
957
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:42,520
[in Swedish]
Welcome! We've been waiting for you.
958
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:45,760
[door closes]
959
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:00,080
[man coughing]
960
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:19,160
[in Swedish] Talk to him.
961
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:28,800
Talk to him.
962
01:28:30,440 --> 01:28:32,160
Don't think it's pointless.
963
01:28:54,440 --> 01:28:55,760
[in Swedish] It's been a while.
964
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:01,320
Hmm?
965
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:13,240
I hope you're fine here.
966
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:18,160
And that they take good care of you.
967
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:37,360
You have to…
968
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:40,560
Excuse me that I haven't been…
969
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:43,240
I didn't have time to come and visit you.
970
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:49,760
I've been very busy.
971
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:07,160
Otherwise I'm fine.
972
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:10,280
I'm still in the Hague and…
973
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:14,560
And it's going well.
974
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:21,400
Whatever "well" means, that is.
975
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:43,680
Dad…
976
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:47,480
It's Misha…
977
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:52,080
Your son.
978
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:32,720
[piano music playing]
979
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:17,080
[piano music fades]
980
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:24,840
[solemn music playing]